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PS3 -vs-Sony Blu-Ray
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAscended_Saiyan
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So, you are saying that you giving WRONG information is irrelevant?  You have no idea what parts of your post he would have absorbed and assumed was fact for related thought processes.  You did not give him complete information that would allow him to make a fully informed decision.  The difference between the models and the percent drop in backwards compatibility from one to the next was completely relevant.  When you're wrong...you're wrong...and YOU were wrong.  Be a man and own up to it instead of trying to "dazzle people" with your dodge and attack skills.  Thanks.

My original post and the one that followed was not an attack on you.  I was just adding more information and corrected you for the OP's benefit.  This thread was about giving someone proper help with CORRECT information and you turned it into your personal crusade to come after me.  Way to go there, champ!
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorNadja
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Read carefully. The only points on the matter that I made were that the 60gb has a higher PS2 compatibility than the 80 or the 40, and then directed him to case-specific answers to his titles. Show me how that doesn't answer that part of his question precisely and correctly? Where is the wrong?

As ever all you're interested in is data, not information. Information is found in the APPLICATION of data. This is your problem, you thrill to statistics and minutiae and completely dispel the practical and sensible. It makes no difference to this chap perez whether or not there is hardware/software/mixture support for his PS2 titles, only whether or not he can play them and whether or not this will wear out his hardware. Quibbling about microchips makes NO difference either way. Now give up trying to big yourself up, go spam the big thread and stop trying to confuse things.
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Read carefully. The only points on the matter that I made were that the 60gb has a higher PS2 compatibility than the 80 or the 40, and then directed him to case-specific answers to his titles. Show me how that doesn't answer that part of his question precisely and correctly? Where is the wrong?

As ever all you're interested in is data, not information. Information is found in the APPLICATION of data. This is your problem, you thrill to statistics and minutiae and completely dispel the practical and sensible. It makes no difference to this chap perez whether or not there is hardware/software/mixture support for his PS2 titles, only whether or not he can play them and whether or not this will wear out his hardware. Quibbling about microchips makes NO difference either way. Now give up trying to big yourself up, go spam the big thread and stop trying to confuse things.


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Read carefully. The only points on the matter that I made were that the 60gb has a higher PS2 compatibility than the 80 or the 40, and then directed him to case-specific answers to his titles. Show me how that doesn't answer that part of his question precisely and correctly? Where is the wrong?

As ever all you're interested in is data, not information. Information is found in the APPLICATION of data. This is your problem, you thrill to statistics and minutiae and completely dispel the practical and sensible. It makes no difference to this chap perez whether or not there is hardware/software/mixture support for his PS2 titles, only whether or not he can play them and whether or not this will wear out his hardware. Quibbling about microchips makes NO difference either way. Now give up trying to big yourself up, go spam the big thread and stop trying to confuse things.

Again, with your personal crusade.  You are still making this about YOU!  Even after I let you know it was mainly because of Overseer's last sentence in his first paragraph.  You know what I said was true in my last post.  You still won't own up to it (I should have expected that).

A lot of people think that the 80GB PS3 has a great deal less backwards compatibility than the 60GB PS3.  You don't know if he was making his decision with the amount of backwards compatibility (BC) being a major factor.  People tend to make it sound like they are losing a great deal of BC with the 80GB PS3.  Your BC list, I'm sure, was very helpful.  Of course, some people don't want to look at the entire list and judge if they could use a particular model (when one is harder to get a hold of than the other).  I was casting a wider net.  Therefore, you attacks are COMPLETELY unprovoked and shows that you are only looking to soothe your ego.

So, you believe you show only do exactly as told or asked...no more...no less.  I'm sure you got the highest marks in school based on that thinking.  I'm sure companies promote based on that principle.  I'm sure the military gives the highest honors based on that principle.  I'm sure people hold other people in high regard for sticking to that reasoning.

I'm done with this.  Feel free to talk to yourself from now on regarding this thread.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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I'm done with this.  Feel free to talk to yourself from now on regarding this thread.


I believe that is exactly what he wanted.  I guess he will be thankful for that. 
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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Again, with your personal crusade.  You are still making this about YOU!  Even after I let you know it was mainly because of Overseer's last sentence in his first paragraph.  You know what I said was true in my last post.  You still won't own up to it (I should have expected that).

What are you talking about, person with whom I've interacted only once before on this board?

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A lot of people think that the 80GB PS3 has a great deal less backwards compatibility than the 60GB PS3.  You don't know if he was making his decision with the amount of backwards compatibility (BC) being a major factor.

We are talking about the chap who was talking about playing BDs and PS2 GAMES, yes?

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People tend to make it sound like they are losing a great deal of BC with the 80GB PS3.  Your BC list, I'm sure, was very helpful.

More or less helpful, do you think, than describing a microchip?

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Of course, some people don't want to look at the entire list and judge if they could use a particular model (when one is harder to get a hold of than the other).  I was casting a wider net.  Therefore, you attacks are COMPLETELY unprovoked and shows that you are only looking to soothe your ego.

There's a difference between "casting a wider net" and "completely useless tangent."

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So, you believe you show only do exactly as told or asked...no more...no less.  I'm sure you got the highest marks in school based on that thinking.  I'm sure companies promote based on that principle.  I'm sure the military gives the highest honors based on that principle.  I'm sure people hold other people in high regard for sticking to that reasoning.

See, this is why you have pretty much no-one in your corner... ever. You misjudge, malign, and mistake. And then rant until no-one even cares. Well done for making absolutely no useful contribution to this thread.

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I'm done with this.  Feel free to talk to yourself from now on regarding this thread.


I believe that is exactly what he wanted.  I guess he will be thankful for that. 

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So, you believe you show only do exactly as told or asked...no more...no less.  I'm sure you got the highest marks in school based on that thinking.  I'm sure companies promote based on that principle.  I'm sure the military gives the highest honors based on that principle.  I'm sure people hold other people in high regard for sticking to that reasoning.


Since he is done with this thread, A_S probably won't see this, but it is obvious he has never been in the military.  That is exactly what they train you to do.  When you are asked a question, you answer it with exactly enough information to do so...no more...no less.  Never, EVER, embelish.  That's how you get in trouble.

The same holds true if you are ever questioned by the police. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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I'm done with this.  Feel free to talk to yourself from now on regarding this thread.


I believe that is exactly what he wanted.  I guess he will be thankful for that. 

The less heard from the Giant ASC the better.
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My take - I may be wrong - I have been wrong in the past.......

PS3 and one or two other players can right now support Profile 1.1, all others only Profile 1.0. When another profile 1.2, 1.3, or 2.0 comes out - the PS3 is the only current machine that has a chance of "doing it". All other "hard" boxes will say nay. It appears to be a firmware thing. If you can re-burn the firmware, you can update the Profile on your machine. Most will not be able to do this - so you now have a large paperweight.

I am looking for the thread that had this information - another site. If I can be lucky enough to find it - I will post a link. Otherwise, it should be easy to confirm or deny.

If I am wrong - most humble appologies - before I get stoned!

Dave
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You are wrong

All players can and do get f/w updates.

There are only three profiles.

- 1.0 Initial
- 1.1 Bonus View
- 2.0 BD Live

The only player (1st gen) that can be updated (to 1.1, 2.0) is the PS3. No other 1st gen players can be updated, however, there are now two other 1.1 players out there, one of which can definately go 2.0.

Just because a player cannot be updated to 1.1 or 2.0, does not make it a paperweight, it will still play all future Blu-ray dsics, the only problem is, your menu won't show the "bonus view" or "BD Live" content.
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