I am having a dispute with other members over my contribution of a change to School of Scoundrels, UPC 796019-799720. I removed the "Widescreen" from the edition as it is not shown anywhere on the cover art. This title was originally released as a Blockbuster Exclusive prior to being available in other stores, similar to how Best Buy had the Elton John and Rolling Stones sets before other stores could carry them. The artwork in the DVDProfiler database shows this Blockbuster Exclusive version and it does not say "Widescreen" on it. The later release (which uses the same UPC) does have Widescreen on the cover. I have gotten 3 NO votes to this change, and my PMs haven't been able to convince them otherwise. It seems to me that the rules regarding "original release" would apply here since Blockbuster's version was out before anyone else and so the specs for their version would apply. Not to mention that the approved artwork shows this version and agrees with the change I made. So, just checking if I am correct in my thinking.

This is covered by the rules.  'Widescreen' is a non-standard description.  If it isn't on the case, then it can't be used in the field.

Yes I agree with Noodleboy , if there are two verisons on the market it makes it easier to pick the one you want to add to your wishlist if you know from the Title edition if it is widescreen or Full Frame..
If there is is only one edtion on the market and it does not list widescreen on the cover art, it then isn't allowed per rules..

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The original release date was 2/13/2007 in widescreen and full screen formate. The wide screen is at the top of the dvd and has already been excepted into the online system.

I added this to my collection to see what the cover looked like.  It does not have 'widescreen' at the top of the dvd.  It might be that way on the re-release, but it is not that way on the original, Blockbuster Exclusive, release.

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"The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title."

The widescreen that is in the edition field does help distinguish between different releases of the same title because their is a full screen edition as well and should not matter if it is on the box or not BUT in this case the widescreen edition is on the dvd case and should remain in the edition field.

The first part of the sentence you bolded says to take the description from the DVD box.  It is not in this case.

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However, this potion of the rule would allow "Widescreen" even if it is not on the case, since as it was pointed out, there is also a "Fullscreen" version available.

The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition).

The fact that 'widescreen' is listed as an example, doesn't trump the rest of the rule.  Non-standard descriptions are to be taken from the box.  I am sorry, but there is no way around that. 

To be fair and talking generally it doesn't say the original DVD release case just the DVD box so might include a later version. The reason I say this is that first there may only be a widescreen version at release so the studio don't see fit to include a widescreen mention on the DVD case. Then they release a fullscreen version and to distinguish the 2 add widescreen to the subsequent release.
There may be room within the letter of the law to add widescreen in this case especially when you read the whole rule that talks about widescreen and distinguishing between subsequent releases.

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Just because you added it does not mean it is on the official release copy. The official release date is 2/13/2007 and it is not a re-release.

My understanding of this release, and the cover that is in the main DB confirms this, is that it was a Blockbuster Exclusive BEFORE it was released to any other stores.  The Blockbuster release was the official release, per the rules.  Anything after that was a re-release. 

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Yes the rules states "If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title." But however it does not state where you have to get it from. It does state to make sure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title and the is a full screen and a widescreen edition.

Um, I am pretty sure it says to "take it from the DVD box."  Per the rules, all data in the profile must come from the original release.  That is the Blockbuster Exclusive, which does not say 'widescreen' on the box.

Not that I have any version of this movie, I added it to my collection to take a look at the profile.  I also did some searching online and did not find a release date for the Blockbuster Exclusive.

This is probably what I would do.  I would make the Blockbuster Exclusive it's own profile.  Set the edition to Blockbuster Exclusive as it states on the cover art.  Do one by UPC and the other by disc ID.  Though if they both have the same disc ID that can be an issue as will.

Also, taking a look at what is in the database, there does not appear to be a full screen version in the database so a "widescreen" identifier doesn't seem to me to be needed though an "unrated" one yes.  If someone adds the full screen version at some point, I would suggest the "full screen" identifier gets added to that profile.  So what I am saying is if all versions in the DB are widescreen, then adding widescreen seems a moot point.