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Theme Music for TV Shows
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
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Hello All

I seem to remember a decision being made in the forum that stated that the composer of 'Theme Music/Song' should only be credited on the FIRST EPISODE of the FIRST SEASON for TV shows.

I have just done an overhaul on season 1 of Carnivale and removed the theme composers from all but the first episode - 2 Yes and 3 No votes so far.

Have I completely lost the plot and remembered this all wrong?

I'm quite happy to withdraw my contribution if people no longer agree with this (or if I slipped into the Twilight Zone and remember a discussion that never actually happened!!  )

Thanks for your input!
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I seem to remember a decision being made in the forum that stated that the composer of 'Theme Music/Song' should only be credited on the FIRST EPISODE of the FIRST SEASON for TV shows!

I remember exactly the opposite.
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I don't remember the discussion but, since the theme was written for the show, it makes sense to credit it for the entire series.
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I don't remember a discussion either... but if they are credited in every episode they should be credited in profiler for every episode.
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Quoting TigiHof:
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Quoting Pantheon:
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I seem to remember a decision being made in the forum that stated that the composer of 'Theme Music/Song' should only be credited on the FIRST EPISODE of the FIRST SEASON for TV shows!

I remember exactly the opposite.


I agree with Tigi, Pete and Unicus.

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Agree with Tigi, Pete, Unicus and Skip   
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I must have imagined the whole thing.

I know it was discussed and I thought it was agreed that after the first episode the Theme is no longer ORIGINAL - hence not including it.

To clarify....what happens with 2nd Seasons of shows? If the theme was composed for the 'show' then I can see that it could be classed as 'original' for the 1st Season...but what about subsequent seasons that the theme wasn't specifically written for.

Should we still include the 'theme' composers then?

I want to get this right for future contributions!


(NB: So as not to cloud the issue I have withdrawn the contribution)
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In my opinion... the way I see it at least... it is original for the entire series... not just the first season.. or first episode. It was written for the series as a whole so it is still original no matter how long the series goes on.

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The way I see it would not be original  is if it was used for another series or movie all together. Then it would not be original for that series or movie.
Pete
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For the record:

Agree with Tigi, Pete, Unicus, Skip and Berak.

Off the record: 

Agree with Tigi, Pete, Unicus, Skip and Berak.
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Quoting Unicus69:
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I don't remember the discussion but, since the theme was written for the show, it makes sense to credit it for the entire series.

But not as a blanket statement...? I mean, the Theme composer should only be composer for the entire series provided the Theme is credited in each episode.

Just trying to clarify...
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Quoting Unicus69:
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I don't remember the discussion but, since the theme was written for the show, it makes sense to credit it for the entire series.

But not as a blanket statement...? I mean, the Theme composer should only be composer for the entire series provided the Theme is credited in each episode.

Just trying to clarify...


Agreed.
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting ya_shin:
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Quoting Unicus69:
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I don't remember the discussion but, since the theme was written for the show, it makes sense to credit it for the entire series.

But not as a blanket statement...? I mean, the Theme composer should only be composer for the entire series provided the Theme is credited in each episode.

Just trying to clarify...


Agreed.

Agreed as well. There are times when for some reason or other, mistake, or unknown purpose of the show producers, when a Theme composer is not credited in every episode. In such cases, we follow suit.

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I'm afraid I was the one causing this discussion as I cast the first NO vote on Pantheon's original contribution.
My line of reasoning was this.  The word "theme" in itself implies it's a recurrent phenomenon. No one in his right mind would write a "theme" for just one episode. So my argument would be that the theme serves as an identifier for the series (even across seasons), not just for the first episode, and hence that the theme was written for the series, not for any particular episode.

Of course, I agree with ya shin's (and unicus' and skip's) additional requirement that the Theme composer is credited as such in each episode.

But I would like to express a big 'thumbs up'    for Pantheon for the completely unbiased and down-to-earth way he has handled my original NO vote! All too often you'll encounter reactions of a completely different nature if you have the audacity to vote NO on their precious contribution. It's refreshing to see a fellow user take it up this way!

DJ
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Since there is no "Theme By" credit in DVDP, they should not be credited at all.
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Since there is no "Theme By" credit in DVDP, they should not be credited at all.

We had this discussion several time already. This is nothing but your personal opinion, not the forum's.
Michael
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Since there is no "Theme By" credit in DVDP, they should not be credited at all.

The credited score composer gets the composer credit.
Every other credited composer for a piece of original music gets the songwriter credit.
For profiler purposes a song is defined as any short (relative to the score) piece of music with or without words.
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