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NTSC output as NTSC or PAL60 ?
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Hi, on my BD-Player (Panasonic DMP-BD50) I have a chosie to set NTSC output as NTSC or PAL60. However I can't really say I see no difference between those two settings, so what should be the "right" setting here? I live in Norway so our system is PAL but my LCD handles both PAL and NTSC.
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diffinately go with PAL..
PAL is a higher resolution format for DVD than NTSC. All else being equal, a PAL DVD of a movie should look significantly better than the equivalent NTSC DVD.

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So by setting it to PAL60, NTSC material would be "upscaled" somehow then? I know PAL is higher resolution than NTSC, but wanted to hear what other people say about this
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is your ' output' as you put it  cable/ hdmi/ componant or RCA jacks ? ..
Your  LCD TV can handle all , and your player can deliver both NTSC and PAL ..
Bluray DVD can deliver  both,, I'd say set it to Pal .
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BD and DVD output is through HDMI, going first into my Receiver, and then to my LCD.
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so does your audio/video 'receiver' receive and deliver both NTSC  and Pal?

I always find it best to save your self some wiring and deliver just the video signal to the LCD  and the audio to the receiver ...

unless of course you have more than One video signal coming in,, but most LCD's can handle up to 7 inputs ..

BTW  is the LCD ( liquid Crystal Diisplay)  is it a computer monitor  or an actual TV set such as (plasma or)  LCD ?? ..
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Yes receiver handles both Pal and ntsc. And I have 3 HDMI signals into my receiver, so I use receiver to handle both audio and video. The LCD is a Toshiba tv-set, not a computer monitor. (liquid crystal display)
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If you have an HDTV with HDMI, it's probably upscaling anyway, so that setting won't do anything.
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so what should be the "right" setting here?

I would commend NTSC.

Because as the proverb says: "Too many cooks spoil the broth." and the HDTV has to upscale anyway so I deem it unnecessary that the BD-Player does 'half the job' and then the TV does it again.

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so what should be the "right" setting here?

I would commend NTSC.

Because as the proverb says: "Too many cooks spoil the broth." and the HDTV has to upscale anyway so I deem it unnecessary that the BD-Player does 'half the job' and then the TV does it again.

cya, Mithi

I'm with Mithi on this. Probably best to just let the TV do the upscaling. But if you can't see the difference then does it really matter?
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Yes receiver handles both Pal and ntsc. And I have 3 HDMI signals into my receiver, so I use receiver to handle both audio and video. The LCD is a Toshiba tv-set, not a computer monitor. (liquid crystal display)


So does your reciver also have a scaling ability?    and what is that set to, is it a better scaler that what is in the TV or in the Blu-player?  The scaler in your panasonic is a good one I recon... 
But that said your tv should have a better one, but thats not for shure, model?  and then its the reiciver also...
Without knowing all the models you have it is not possible to recomend anything.

Use your eye,  try direct from Blu without scaling in blu, try direct with scaling in the blu, try via reciver and let the reciver scale..  remember to turn of all other scaling...  worst case is if you upscale and downscale and then upscale again  everything should look exactly the same but crappy.  The time it takes to rewire could let you forget how good/poor the last picture was, take pictures and put them side by side, and use test patterns that shows the problem areas.

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There's no reason to use PAL60 unless you have an old TV set that can't handle NTSC properly.
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The time it takes to rewire could let you forget how good/poor the last picture was, take pictures and put them side by side, and use test patterns that shows the problem areas.
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If you direct wire (video) to the TV, ,and you direct wire (video) to the receiver., just using the 'input button' on the remote to dance back and forth between the two.., would not be using up too much time between test viewings..

I Still Say use the HDMI straight to the TV and then use maybe componant to the receiver and componant back to the LCD., Because there are many times you would not have to use all the fancy 5.1 / 6.1 audio outs just to watch a BD late at night ..
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Because there are many times you would not have to use all the fancy 5.1 / 6.1 audio outs just to watch a BD late at night ..

I live alone in the woods, and I usually use high sound watching BD's, even at late night 
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Hi, on my BD-Player (Panasonic DMP-BD50) I have a chosie to set NTSC output as NTSC or PAL60. However I can't really say I see no difference between those two settings, so what should be the "right" setting here? I live in Norway so our system is PAL but my LCD handles both PAL and NTSC.


If your TV is NTSC capable then go with NTSC because the picture doesn't have to be converted a couple of time.. With that option your quality loss is 0%..
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