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| Registered: September 6, 2007 |  Posts: 76 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mithi: Quote:
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Not correct. Bluray discs are anamorphic by default,
NO, see this message.
cya, Mithi I see that all BD are 16:9 as a standard for the format. You can call it anamorphic, too (anamorphic means a 16:9 aspect ratio image), the fact is that checking "Anamorphic" on a bluray is not and will never be an error. Can be useless, as (let's say) checking an eventual "HD" box (all bluray are hd), but not wrong. That is why, i see, the option is not active on simple blurays, but only on combo sets, for the DVD part of the set. Why complicate something so simple?  | | | | I can resist everything but temptation. |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Anamorphic only means 16:9 when dealing with DVD. In general it means optical stretching an image at playback or recording to fit it onto a film frame which is a different aspect ratio. DVD only uses the term as an analogy. It isn't strictly correct. Also, notice that DVD Profiler doesn't use the term "anamorphic." It uses "16:9 enhanced." The current design of data seems to say it's more important to distinguish between the technical minutiae of how a frame got its shape that the actual shape of the frame. |
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| Registered: September 6, 2007 | | Posts: 76 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok, so what's wrong in checking "16:9 enhanced" in combo BD/DVD set?
Assuming the DVD is really "16:9 enhanced" is a right option and you can't go wrong with the BD either, because they are all "16:9 enhanced".
Do you get my point? | | | | I can resist everything but temptation. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting locutus2k: Quote:
You can call it anamorphic, too You can call a horse a duck, that doesn't make it quack. Sorry but really, "anamorphic" was a very specific property of DVDs that, in the olden times, was important to track. If you want a data-field to reflect anything like "4:3" vs "16:9" this has to be done the right way, meaning a new field, not by highjacking an old one. cya, Mithi | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 |  Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | The "16x9 enhanced" field was once called "anamorphic". We changed the name since manufacturers seem to have settled on this description for anamorphic DVDs. The field meaning remains - it tracks anamorphic video on DVDs only.
Let's limit this discussion to the original question, which is whether to allow this field to be submitted as checked for Blu-ray/DVD combo profiles.
I would lean towards leaving this field enabled for combos, but filtering the value during contribution, so that all online profiles have this unchecked for combo profiles. This would leave flexibility for those who wish to track it locally, while eliminating seesawing in the online database. It also has the benefit of matching the majority of combo profiles now in the online database. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
The "16x9 enhanced" field was once called "anamorphic". We changed the name since manufacturers seem to have settled on this description for anamorphic DVDs. The field meaning remains - it tracks anamorphic video on DVDs only.
Let's limit this discussion to the original question, which is whether to allow this field to be submitted as checked for Blu-ray/DVD combo profiles.
I would lean towards leaving this field enabled for combos, but filtering the value during contribution, so that all online profiles have this unchecked for combo profiles. This would leave flexibility for those who wish to track it locally, while eliminating seesawing in the online database. It also has the benefit of matching the majority of combo profiles now in the online database. My preference would be to how you are leaning as well |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Scooter1836: Quote:
My preference would be to how you are leaning as well Mine too. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | after looking thru these 12 pages .. wanted to also add what I do for a combo box of HD and regular dvd & what to check for .. easy ... just add DVD to media and that allows the box to now be ready to click ..
If I want to see how many non anamorphic discs I have ,, just use the filter box below and make sure your ONLY DVD is checked ...
simple- after all this bickering back and forth.. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm okay with that. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | works for me as well. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting locutus2k: Quote:
I see that all BD are 16:9 as a standard for the format. You can call it anamorphic, too No you can't, because it isn't. Quote:
anamorphic means a 16:9 aspect ratio image No it doesn't. Quote:
the fact is that checking "Anamorphic" on a bluray is not and will never be an error Yes, it's an error every time since they Blu-rays aren't anamorphic. Yes, it's Blu-ray. Quote:
Why complicate something so simple? It doesn't seem to be that simple  |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
I would lean towards leaving this field enabled for combos, but filtering the value during contribution, so that all online profiles have this unchecked for combo profiles. Sounds OK, could you also implement this change to all combos already contributed to online db? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,738 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
I would lean towards leaving this field enabled for combos, but filtering the value during contribution, so that all online profiles have this unchecked for combo profiles. This would leave flexibility for those who wish to track it locally, while eliminating seesawing in the online database. It also has the benefit of matching the majority of combo profiles now in the online database. Yes, let's do that. |
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| Registered: September 6, 2007 | | Posts: 76 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
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anamorphic means a 16:9 aspect ratio image
No it doesn't.
It's just a matter of language: " Unlike DVD, Blu-ray supports SMPTE HD resolutions of 720p and 1080i/p with a display aspect ratio of 16:9 and a pixel aspect ratio of 1:1, so widescreen video is scaled non-anamorphically (this is referred to as "square" pixels)". from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic_widescreen Anyway i agree with the Ken option, too. | | | | I can resist everything but temptation. | | | | Last edited: by locutus2k |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | haven't any of you been watching an HD telecast and when the commercials come on the odd commercial is just surrounded by back bars the image ( commercial) in the center of the black area is still rectangular ( 16 x 9 ) but it does not automatically fill the screen.. That is a non anamorphic ad that was never converted to adjust to the High Def channel ..
I still have quite a few movies including The Abyss that is widescreen and is non anamorphic (in image/shape) but I would have to Zoom in manually to cut off the black bars ... | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 554 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting locutus2k: Quote:
It's just a matter of language: "Unlike DVD, Blu-ray supports SMPTE HD resolutions of 720p and 1080i/p with a display aspect ratio of 16:9 and a pixel aspect ratio of 1:1, so widescreen video is scaled non-anamorphically (this is referred to as "square" pixels)". from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic_widescreen In that same quote: "...video is scaled non-anamorphically..." which means Blu-rays are not anamorphic. Anamorphic, as it relates to film, specifically refers to the process by which an image is stretched to achieve the proper aspect ratio. As Blu-rays are natively in the correct aspect ratio, there's no need for this stretching. | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection
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