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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lopek: Quote:
Cheers Tigi! Good luck with the Skip blasting and PMs!  No problem, Lopek. As I wrote in a different thread: I once respected and supported him, but unfortunately he has become a total wacko. I had to block him anyway - never thought I'd have to do this with anyone. Well, now lets see if we can convince others they need this DVD, too... | | | | Michael |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,594 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote:
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Cheers Tigi! Good luck with the Skip blasting and PMs!
No problem, Lopek. As I wrote in a different thread: I once respected and supported him, but unfortunately he has become a total wacko. I had to block him anyway - never thought I'd have to do this with anyone.
Well, now lets see if we can convince others they need this DVD, too... I will definately be adding this title to my wishlist when I get home. I loved "28 Days Later" and I'm looking forward to adding the sequel to my collection as I hear it's better than it's predecesor. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 168 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
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Cheers Tigi! Good luck with the Skip blasting and PMs!
No problem, Lopek. As I wrote in a different thread: I once respected and supported him, but unfortunately he has become a total wacko. I had to block him anyway - never thought I'd have to do this with anyone.
Well, now lets see if we can convince others they need this DVD, too...
I will definately be adding this title to my wishlist when I get home. I loved "28 Days Later" and I'm looking forward to adding the sequel to my collection as I hear it's better than it's predecesor. Hate to say it, but since this will cost me a cent less than I thought, I just have to have this one too. FWIW, I agree that the rule - as worded - may prohibit the minor SRP change, but I feel that this whole thread was started as a result of petulant behavior and not because of genuine interest in database accuracy. Common sense leads me to believe that the SRP change is acceptable when included with other changes AND THE RULE NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO MAKE THAT INTENT CLEAR. Hell, the dissenting user may even feel that the SRP change is correct especially since its been made clear in another recent thread that they may not even present thier true opinion at times simply to see who may take an opposing viewpoint. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,481 |
| | Posted: | | | | $29.99 down to $29.98 sounds to me like a Walmart SRP.., I mean like.. If a contribution comes in at a penny under whose SRP?? It would help if the contributor backed up his SRP with Source.
Where and Who is the source of that SRP? It could be legitimate., as there are more than one studio distribution centre that handles the wholesale lot and whether it is a per pallet sale for Costco., or individual 12 per box sales the SRP will be different especially these days when CDN and USA $ are coming closer and closer together in value
I personally hate the SRP as I would never trust what that is.,.
Because after it is only suggested and not written in stone. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,544 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,481 |
| | Posted: | | | | I believe Skip should change his vote and suck it up and hold his nose if need be..,
These two links for SRP are Proof and therefore according to the RULES should be allowed and therefore I also believe that in the rules there is something about voting against a contribution when you you know it to be right .. ah yes here it is here:
If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,481 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 467 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 813 |
| | Posted: | | | | For those who do not yet have this on their wish list to see it, the vote currently stands at: Yes: 20 No: 1  | | | Andy 
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | And it remains a Rules violation.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 813 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
And it remains a Rules violation.
Skip I'll ask again. Says who? There is a clear difference of opinion in this thread, so who is the arbiter of whose interpretation of the rule is correct? | | | Andy
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I don't have this title to see the complete contribution... but... When I look at the Rule...
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Use the SRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price) at the time of the DVD’s original release using the currency type matching the locality of the DVD. Do not change the SRP in DVD Profiler to reflect reductions in SRP that distributors make in continually over time following release. Ensure the currency type matches the locality of the DVD. Do not make contributions with changes of a few cents/pence to the SRP.
I only see one way to read the final sentence in that rule... and that is to not make contributions with a change of a few cents/pence to the SRP. It does not say contributions of only a change to SRP (like the rule for Genres)... it is just a single statement of not to do it. So I indeed would have to agree with skip that it is against the rules as it is written.
My personal opinion... it is one of the rules I always disagreed with... as I would have preferred it to be not to make SRP changes only.
If that is what was intended... it wasn't correctly implemented... and needs to be changed. But we can't go by what we think was intended... I don't know about any of you... but I for one am not a mind reader... I have no way of knowing what was intended... or what Ken intended when he approved the rule.
That's my 2cents worth at least. My 2cents, too. It says what it says: don't contribute changes to SRP. There's no condition to the rule about not submitting ONLY an SRP change. I originally thought the same way as Andy, but I'm getting awfully tired of seeing these minor SRP changes - even if every other element of the profile also includes a change. But a Rule is a Rule - If you don't like, try to get it changed or clarified. Until and unless the rule is changed, though, it is your (our) responsibility to follow it. SO THERE! | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can READ, and I know what the words mean. You claim interpretation , there is none. You can't show me any source in the Rules to support your claim in any way. The Rules say DO NOT do it, there are no exceptions included nor any provisions for making tiny changes. All you can do is provide some nebulous interpretation for which there is ABSOLUTELY no support in the Rules. This is about your personal preference and deliberately choosing to ignore the Rules.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 813 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I can READ, and I know what the words mean. So those that disagree with you cannot read, and do not know what the words mean.  Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
You claim interpretation , there is none. I claim what I understand the rules to mean and allow. Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
You can't show me any source in the Rules to support your claim in any way. The Rules say DO NOT do it, there are no exceptions included nor any provisions for making tiny changes.
I have explain my understanding earlier, but you clearly just don't get it.  Strange as you are so confident that you can READ and know what words mean. Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
All you can do is provide some nebulous interpretation for which there is ABSOLUTELY no support in the Rules. And again... says who? Who is the arbiter of the rules to make that judgement?  Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
This is about your personal preference and deliberately choosing to ignore the Rules. Nope, don't believe I have ever said that - are you trying to mind read again Skip? This is about getting accurate information into the database, in a way that I believe is allowed by the rules.  | | | Andy
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
I believe Skip should change his vote and suck it up and hold his nose if need be..,
These two links for SRP are Proof and therefore according to the RULES should be allowed and therefore I also believe that in the rules there is something about voting against a contribution when you you know it to be right .. ah yes here it is here:
If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. Wrong, Terry. Just because you see some "intent" which is not spelled out in the rule and agree with Andy & Co. doesn't make your interpretation fact. The Rule says what it says and that dosn't include the bit about SRP changes ONLY. So your statement that Skip has abused the voting rules is incorrect, too. What is much more troubling to me is how quick people are to add this film to their wish list so they can vote against Skip. That smacks like ballot stuffing - which I believe IS against the rules for voting. It's also childish - and beneath copntempt.   It looks as if Andy made the first contribution with an SRP of $29.98 - then someone else contributed a change to $29.99 (either deliberately or maybe not seeing Andy's SRP data) which violated the rule. Andy then compounded the rule viiolation by changing SRP BACK to $29.98 (again maybe not realizing that it had been changed from his original contribution). I don't think anyone set out to violate rules but now that we're into page 5 of this thread, there are starting to be some deliberate rule-breaking goin' on. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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