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Unless you can enter in the whole formula before it's parsed and executed, it doesn't.

You have to perform the OoE yourself.
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But if each paid initially 10  dollars in Grand total (10 +10+10=30 - $2 for tip =$28.00  / recieved one dollar back to make their Ten into Nine is - $9*3=27.. would equal 1 dollar missing..

I believe the answer lies in the fact that '0 to 9 equals 10'  just like the year 2001 was the first year of the 21st Century, as so many wanted to think that the year 2000 was the first year of the 21st century, where zero like ten is the last year of the 20th century.

I think??????

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But if each paid initially 10  dollars in Grand total (10 +10+10=30 - $2 for tip =$28.00  / recieved one dollar back to make their Ten into Nine is - $9*3=27.. would equal 1 dollar missing..
No it doesn't because they didn't subtract 2 from 30, they added 2 to 25 which allowed each to keep 1 dollar.

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I believe the answer lies in the fact that '0 to 9 equals 10'  just like the year 2001 was the first year of the 21st Century, as so many wanted to think that the year 2000 was the first year of the 21st century, where zero like ten is the last year of the 20th century.

I think??????

Your problem is that you are thinking in whole numbers. Everything from 0 to 1 is less than a whole number. This means that even though the 21st century began 1 January 2000 the first year was not complete until 1 January 2001.
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I wonder if order of execution in math is used in finances/accounting.  Try 1+1-1*0 with windows calculator in Standard mode and then again in scientific mode.  You'll see what happens.

that number should be marked as (1+1)=2 (1*0)=0 two minus zero is two...
but just the sequence alone looks like the 'tail end' the times part would make anything zero.
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But if each paid initially 10  dollars in Grand total (10 +10+10=30 - $2 for tip =$28.00  / recieved one dollar back to make their Ten into Nine is - $9*3=27.. would equal 1 dollar missing..
No it doesn't because they didn't subtract 2 from 30, they added 2 to 25 which allowed each to keep 1 dollar.

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I believe the answer lies in the fact that '0 to 9 equals 10'  just like the year 2001 was the first year of the 21st Century, as so many wanted to think that the year 2000 was the first year of the 21st century, where zero like ten is the last year of the 20th century.

I think??????

See above


But if you divide three into 28 and get $9.33 in reality their $ten dollar buying power in paper is only $9.00 in paper where are the coins???

In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
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Your problem is that you are thinking in whole numbers. Everything from 0 to 1 is less than a whole number. This means that even though the 21st century began 1 January 2000 the first year was not complete until 1 January 2001.

Your wrong there;  the start of the first year of the 21st Century is 2001 and not 2000,
the year 2000 was the 10th year of the 1990's..
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What's 1+1-1*0?

Out of dozens of people online I asked a couple years back, the vast majority said zero.  That is wrong.  The correct answer is 2.  When they realize they forgot the Orders of Execution, they tended to face-palm.



Please don't bring 3rd party maths rules to this forum. The only thing that matters is the sum is calculated 'As Credited' therefore the answer is 0.

You may of course calculate it to your personal preference but keep it local. 
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But if each paid initially 10  dollars in Grand total (10 +10+10=30 - $2 for tip =$28.00  / recieved one dollar back to make their Ten into Nine is - $9*3=27.. would equal 1 dollar missing..
No it doesn't because they didn't subtract 2 from 30, they added 2 to 25 which allowed each to keep 1 dollar.

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I believe the answer lies in the fact that '0 to 9 equals 10'  just like the year 2001 was the first year of the 21st Century, as so many wanted to think that the year 2000 was the first year of the 21st century, where zero like ten is the last year of the 20th century.

I think??????

See above


But if you divide three into 28 and get $9.33 in reality their $ten dollar buying power in paper is only $9.00 in paper where are the coins???


I think it may be a bit late to teach you how to count but I'll make one last stab at it.

They began with 3 $10 notes($30). The man came back with 5 $1 notes ($5). There were never any coins involved unless you left something out.

They gave 3 $10 notes ($30) and received back as change 5 $1 notes ($5). 2 $1 notes were given to the man as a tip. The total out is $27. Each kept 1 $1 note. No coins.
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Your problem is that you are thinking in whole numbers. Everything from 0 to 1 is less than a whole number. This means that even though the 21st century began 1 January 2000 the first year was not complete until 1 January 2001.


Your wrong there;  the start of the first year of the 21st Century is 2001 and not 2000,
the year 2000 was the 10th year of the 1990's..


Again, you are missing anything less than a whole number.

Think of it this way, 1 Jan 0000 to 1 January 0001 is the first year.
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I think it may be a bit late to teach you how to count but I'll make one last stab at it.

They began with 3 $10 notes($30). The man came back with 5 $1 notes ($5). There were never any coins involved unless you left something out.

They gave 3 $10 notes ($30) and received back as change 5 $5 notes. 2 $1 notes were given to the man as a tip. The total out is $27. Each kept 1 $1 note. No coins.


Nope, ,the Bellboy did not give back all their monies. ( as in bold above here 5 $5notes.)
He only gave them 5 One dollar notes and they gave two of those 5 singles as a tip and then divided up the three one dollar notes amongst them one apiece...



You know  I'm only yanking your chain,, as I do agree, but the surface of this scenario makes a good parlor game amongst the young at school.. 
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Your problem is that you are thinking in whole numbers. Everything from 0 to 1 is less than a whole number. This means that even though the 21st century began 1 January 2000 the first year was not complete until 1 January 2001.


Your wrong there;  the start of the first year of the 21st Century is 2001 and not 2000,
the year 2000 was the 10th year of the 1990's..


Again, you are missing anything less than a whole number.

Think of it this way, 1 Jan 0000 to 1 January 0001 is the first year.

Yes and it wasn't regarded as year 1 until January 1 0001 and not the day before..
2001 is the first year of the 21st Century. just as the thirty dollars is the 29th dollar is 30., or .01 to $1.00 is up to and totaling= One /  and $29.00 to $29.99 is the thirtiest dollar.
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But if each paid initially 10  dollars in Grand total (10 +10+10=30 - $2 for tip =$28.00  / recieved one dollar back to make their Ten into Nine is - $9*3=27.. would equal 1 dollar missing..

I believe the answer lies in the fact that '0 to 9 equals 10'  just like the year 2001 was the first year of the 21st Century, as so many wanted to think that the year 2000 was the first year of the 21st century, where zero like ten is the last year of the 20th century.

I think??????



the problem here is that you did 30-2 = 28.  For the tip it is 30+2 = 32.  and then from the 32 you subtract the $5 rebate from the hotel staff 32-5 = 27.  Still $27 or $9 per person.
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the problem here is that you did 30-2 = 28.  For the tip it is 30+2 = 32.  and then from the 32 you subtract the $5 rebate from the hotel staff 32-5 = 27.  Still $27 or $9 per person.

ah,.. but the tip was paid After the five dollars came back.. Like if they didn't tip , the room would have cost $25.00,, but as an after thought the tip was paid,, therefore bringing their room costs up to $27.00..

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Your problem is that you are thinking in whole numbers. Everything from 0 to 1 is less than a whole number. This means that even though the 21st century began 1 January 2000 the first year was not complete until 1 January 2001.


Your wrong there;  the start of the first year of the 21st Century is 2001 and not 2000,
the year 2000 was the 10th year of the 1990's..


Again, you are missing anything less than a whole number.

Think of it this way, 1 Jan 0000 to 1 January 0001 is the first year.


You have bought into the myth that there was a year 'zero'.  There wasn't.  There is a lot of material on this.  Here is one excerpt from one:

The concept of a year "zero" is a modern myth (but a very popular one). Roman numerals do not have a figure designating zero, and treating zero as a number on an equal footing with other numbers was not common in the 6th century when our present year reckoning was established by Dionysius Exiguus. Dionysius let the year C.E. 1 start one week after what he believed to be Jesus' birthday.

Therefore, C.E. 1 follows immediately after 1 B.C.E. with no intervening year zero. So a person who was born in 10 B.C.E. and died in C.E. 10, would have died at the age of 19, not 20.
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I am aware there is no "year zero". I was simply attempting to  show him the infinitum between 0 and 1.
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When I was in school wasn't good at math. My math teacher he said that's why they invented the calculator. 



Which doesn't help you a bit.  If you don't understand how to do the problem long hand, you don't understand it well enough to use a calculator, either.
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