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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | If you measure a screen cap and the aspect ratio is a non standard size (defining "non standard" as anything not in the drop down list) should the aspect ratio be entered as measured or should the closest standard ratio (From drop down list) be used. Not making a contribution just wonder what the opinion was on this |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Personally, I let that depend on how big the devation to the closest standard ratio is. If it's just a few pixels, I'll round up or down to the nearest standard - heaven forbid I need to start tracking which films really are 1.83:1 or 1.84:1 instead of 1.85:1... But for the odd one out with a really significant deviation, I might be inclined to enter the exact ratio. |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | The adjustment or type of the screen can always influence the ratio a little bit, so imo the closest standard ratio should be used.
The steps of the given ratios are mostly so close that you'll find the best fitting.
The ratio is addicted to the fotografic film the movie is captured with. So i think the standard ratios are chosen to match to the standard types of fotografic films that are used. I don't think there are many special film types that have a special ratio. |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,463 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote: The adjustment or type of the screen can always influence the ratio a little bit, so imo the closest standard ratio should be used. I'd be inclined to think this way also. How could you develop confidence that after all the codecs and other processing in your home equipment, that you can measure something that is more "accurate" than what is claimed? I guess you could calibate with a reference standard video? I don't make many contributions, but the technical aspects of this are interesting. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote: I don't think there are many special film types that have a special ratio. It's rare alright, but there are exceptions to every rule. This one (UPC 014381499957) is 2.00:1, for instance. Now I wouldn't round that down to 1.85:1 or up to 2.20:1. Again, give or take a few pixels, I'm all in favour of using the closest standard aspect ratio. But there are cases, such as this one, where I feel it's more appropriate to enter the actual aspect ratio. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Some TV productions are 14:9, that is 1.55 or 1.56:1. I think that is too far from 1.66:1 so I type in that. Also if the cover state 1.75:1 like some Disney titles I use that even though it's very close to 1.78:1. And 2.40:1 really needs to be in the drop-down list... | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting VirusPil:
Quote: I don't think there are many special film types that have a special ratio. It's rare alright, but there are exceptions to every rule. This one (UPC 014381499957) is 2.00:1, for instance. Now I wouldn't round that down to 1.85:1 or up to 2.20:1. Again, give or take a few pixels, I'm all in favour of using the closest standard aspect ratio. But there are cases, such as this one, where I feel it's more appropriate to enter the actual aspect ratio. I never said there is no possibility that this can happen. Like you say: exceptions to every rule. This is one of the cases where the standard ratios are not this close, but where draw the line? (I also wouldn't round up or down in this case) Btw, i think Caligula was filmed absolutely untypical, not just the ratio, also the speed is nothing standard, but that's not the matter of this thread. | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | The type of camera lens would reflect on the true aspect ratio., Keeping in mind that the true aspect ratio for Apocalypse Now is and always has been 2.00:1, and 2001 A Space Odyssey has and always is 2.20:1 ., yet both films have been credited with a 2.35:1 ratio as well at soem sites. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,414 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote: The type of camera lens would reflect on the true aspect ratio., Keeping in mind that the true aspect ratio for Apocalypse Now is and always has been 2.00:1, and
Oh, that's not true. Storaro has become a notorious liar about such things in his quixotic quest to make everything 2.00:1----when it CLEARLY wasn't. Just look at the butcher job he did on Tucker; there are cases where speaking people are hacked in two by the pan & scan he did on the DVD to make it conform to his imagined standard of 2.00:1 and he still insists that it was always meant to be seen that way. A lot of directors seem to go along with the joke because he's a great cinematographer, but he's very obviously lost his marbles on this point. | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,945 |
| Posted: | | | | fully agree with T!M here | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,436 |
| Posted: | | | | ...and I. | | | Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan. Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | I believe Caligula Aspect ratio is 1.95:1 ,, in the middle of both Tim's examples. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,550 |
| Posted: | | | | So this has cropped up (so to speak). There's a submission changing the aspect ratio from 2.35 to 2.36. Has there been an official ruling on this from Ken? I find these minuscule changes to be unnecessary but not sure what kind of consensus there was (if any). |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,640 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting The Movieman: Quote: So this has cropped up (so to speak). There's a submission changing the aspect ratio from 2.35 to 2.36. Has there been an official ruling on this from Ken? I find these minuscule changes to be unnecessary but not sure what kind of consensus there was (if any). This is in regards to one of my submissions (Session 9 Blu-ray). I realize people may have different opinions but the way I viewed it, accurate information should be submitted; not pseudo-accurate information. I don't see how this is any different than anything else we contribute such as replicating typos in the overview and cast/crew or the DVD title which may be different from the actual film title. |
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