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New Media Type "UHD Disc"
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSwissFilm
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Hello

In December 2015 we will get the first 4K "UHD Discs". So please make sure we have this Mediatype in the Profiler by then. UHD Disc is a new Media Type like DVD, Blu-ray and now UHD Disc.

Make also sure that we have by then the new Audio Tracks used for those discs ready to choose in Profiler, so we can open those films from the beginning the right way.

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If I understand thing correctly, Ultra HD Blu-Ray is not a new format, but a new variant of the Blu-Ray technology, in a similar way that 3D Blu-Rays are. So there is no new media type needed, but the video format and audio format information has to be updated.
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On the other hand, if you buy a 3D Blu-Ray, it is always in some way possible to play back the movie on a 2D player. UHD BDs will only be useable on UHD players... hard to decide how this should be handeled. But the most important thing is that it should be integrated into DVDProfiler in some way in the next weeks.
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If I understand thing correctly, Ultra HD Blu-Ray is not a new format, but a new variant of the Blu-Ray technology, in a similar way that 3D Blu-Rays are. So there is no new media type needed, but the video format and audio format information has to be updated.

Definitely a new Media Type.
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If I understand thing correctly, Ultra HD Blu-Ray is not a new format, but a new variant of the Blu-Ray technology, in a similar way that 3D Blu-Rays are. So there is no new media type needed, but the video format and audio format information has to be updated.

Definitely a new Media Type.


In your opinion.

The Blu-ray Disc Association, which is developing the format, calls it Ultra HD Blu-ray.

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If I understand thing correctly, Ultra HD Blu-Ray is not a new format, but a new variant of the Blu-Ray technology, in a similar way that 3D Blu-Rays are. So there is no new media type needed, but the video format and audio format information has to be updated.

Definitely a new Media Type.


In your opinion.

The Blu-ray Disc Association, which is developing the format, calls it Ultra HD Blu-ray.

Logo is

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I don't think that matters.  The DVD Association, which I believe is similar to the Blu-ray Disc Association, called their new format HD DVD.  The logo was the normal DVD logo preceded by the addition of an HD logo.  It was considered a new media type by invelos, so I don't see why this couldn't be considered a new media type as well.
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There is no fight.

I hope Ken decides to add Ultra HD Blu-ray as new new media type.

That post was hasty reaction to the unsupported declamation that is was "Definitely a new Media Type."
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If I understand thing correctly, Ultra HD Blu-Ray is not a new format, but a new variant of the Blu-Ray technology, in a similar way that 3D Blu-Rays are. So there is no new media type needed, but the video format and audio format information has to be updated.

Definitely a new Media Type.

In your opinion.

The Blu-ray Disc Association, which is developing the format, calls it Ultra HD Blu-ray.

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Logo already posted 5 months ago.

Naming. "Blu-ray" refers to the blue laser. HEVC, etc., aside, do you really think that you can store 100 GB of data on a 50 GB disc?
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If I understand thing correctly, Ultra HD Blu-Ray is not a new format, but a new variant of the Blu-Ray technology, in a similar way that 3D Blu-Rays are. So there is no new media type needed, but the video format and audio format information has to be updated.


You understand correctly.  According to the latest audio visual application format specifications for BD-ROM white paper from the BDA, UltraHD is considered Profile 6 and is seen as a new extension to the existing Blu-ray format rather than a completely new format.

Guess we'll have to wait and see how Ken ultimately incorporates changes for UltraHD BD.

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Naming. "Blu-ray" refers to the blue laser. HEVC, etc., aside, do you really think that you can store 100 GB of data on a 50 GB disc?


Nice try.  Blu-ray doesn't refer to the blue laser but the name of the format which just so happens to use a blue laser.  Blu-ray BonusView, BD-Live, 3D, and Ultra HD are the same format according to the BDA.
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Naming. "Blu-ray" refers to the blue laser. HEVC, etc., aside, do you really think that you can store 100 GB of data on a 50 GB disc?

Nice try.  Blu-ray doesn't refer to the blue laser but the name of the format which just so happens to use a blue laser.  Blu-ray BonusView, BD-Live, 3D, and Ultra HD are the same format according to the BDA.

The new Ultra HD Blu-ray players, which you will need to read the new higher capacity Media Type, are backward compatible.
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Since it requires a new UHD player, it seems to make sense that we should have a new media type to help people easily distinguish these from regular BDs.
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Technically, Profile 5 players (i.e. a new player) were needed to play Blu-ray 3D discs.

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Naming. "Blu-ray" refers to the blue laser. HEVC, etc., aside, do you really think that you can store 100 GB of data on a 50 GB disc?

Nice try.  Blu-ray doesn't refer to the blue laser but the name of the format which just so happens to use a blue laser.  Blu-ray BonusView, BD-Live, 3D, and Ultra HD are the same format according to the BDA.

The new Ultra HD Blu-ray players, which you will need to read the new higher capacity Media Type, are backward compatible.


Is that a question or a statement?  Either way, yes, UHD Blu-ray players will play Blu-ray discs of other Profiles or using your terminology be backwards compatible.
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Technically, Profile 5 players (i.e. a new player) were needed to play Blu-ray 3D discs.

You did not need a new player or drive to read the same old media type.

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The new Ultra HD Blu-ray players, which you will need to read the new higher capacity Media Type, are backward compatible.

Is that a question or a statement?

Do you see any question mark?
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Technically, Profile 5 players (i.e. a new player) were needed to play Blu-ray 3D discs.

You did not need a new player or drive to read the same old media type.


So how do you actually watch a 3D Blu-ray in 3D on a Profile 2 player? 
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I wouldn't use the player compatibility as a criterion. Even today, a manufacturer can choose to release a non-3D compatible Blu-Ray player. I can even remember back when some DVD drives didn't support dual layer. That didn't last long ...
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