Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7  Previous   Next
Open Credits?????
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting pompel9:
Quote:
Quoting reybr:
Quote:
Quoting Lopek:
Quote:

Definitely no open credits - a silly idea for cataloging consistent roles such as most that we have.


Agree with Lopek on this one, but I want to add a few roles:
Created by (when the actual credit says created by. Mostly TV series)
Theme music (Also mostly TV series or film series)
Costume Designer


Yes, created by is an important role (In my mind anyway). What would Star Trek have been whit out Gene Roddenberry. All of Star Trek which he was not involved is based on his work.
And I voted for Leave it the way it is but add more categories (list in your post). I have seen some good requests. I would also like to have "Produced by" and "Supervising producer".

Skip beat me to it but those are already in place. Interesting that you missed it with all the shoehorning going on in the producer field.
Dan
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorpompel9
Registered: March 13, 2007
Norway Posts: 467
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting skipnet50:
Quote:
Pompel:

Produced by would be Producer.

Skip


I have gotten the impression that we don't credit Produced by. I even asked that once. I won't look it up now, but as I recall you said we don't credit Produced by. Correct me if I am wrong.

(and for the record, this post is not an insult. I think I must point this out every time from now on. Since I have been accused to be insulting.)
 Last edited: by pompel9
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorpompel9
Registered: March 13, 2007
Norway Posts: 467
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
And how do we credit these? Produced by can't be handled by Producer. Cause he is not a ordinary producer. And I have been watching the forum. I can't imagine how I missed where we can use Supervising producer. Do we credit those as Executive Producer? As Producer?

Could you give me a link to the forum where this has been decided Dan W?

(and for the record, this post is not an insult. I think I must point this out every time from now on. Since I have been accused to be insulting.)
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Would those of you who would like to see additional fields or categories added to the current list, please offer up a method of adding those using the current system?


This one isn't overly difficult to add...
Casting

but these, using the current system, are near impossible.
Costume Design
Makeup
Special Effects
Set Decoration
Theme credit - music
Created by (when the actual credit says created by. Mostly TV series)
Dan
 Last edited: by Dan W
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting pompel9:
Quote:
And how do we credit these? Produced by can't be handled by Producer. Cause he is not a ordinary producer. And I have been watching the forum. I can't imagine how I missed where we can use Supervising producer. Do we credit those as Executive Producer? As Producer?

Could you give me a link to the forum where this has been decided Dan W?

(and for the record, this post is not an insult. I think I must point this out every time from now on. Since I have been accused to be insulting.)

I don't suppose you ever read the rules on this one because it was put in place with the rules.
Click the link below and scroll down to Producer.

http://www.invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=credits
Dan
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorTracer
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 951
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting pompel9:
Quote:
And how do we credit these? Produced by can't be handled by Producer. Cause he is not a ordinary producer. And I have been watching the forum. I can't imagine how I missed where we can use Supervising producer. Do we credit those as Executive Producer? As Producer?

Could you give me a link to the forum where this has been decided Dan W?

(and for the record, this post is not an insult. I think I must point this out every time from now on. Since I have been accused to be insulting.)


The "Produced by" = Producer is in the rules.

Supervising Producer isn't handled at this time.

edit - Dan beat me to it.
Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways.
 Last edited: by Tracer
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorpompel9
Registered: March 13, 2007
Norway Posts: 467
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Thanks Dan W. I have missed that one. But still I would like to have Supervising producer. Since this is not handled in the rules.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Tracer:
Quote:
Quoting pompel9:
Quote:
And how do we credit these? Produced by can't be handled by Producer. Cause he is not a ordinary producer. And I have been watching the forum. I can't imagine how I missed where we can use Supervising producer. Do we credit those as Executive Producer? As Producer?

Could you give me a link to the forum where this has been decided Dan W?

(and for the record, this post is not an insult. I think I must point this out every time from now on. Since I have been accused to be insulting.)


The "Produced by" = Producer is in the rules.

Supervising Producer isn't handled at this time.

edit - Dan beat me to it.

Supervising Producer is handled by the current list. It just isn't specifically listed. It goes under Executive Producer.
Dan
 Last edited: by Dan W
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorreybr
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Norway Posts: 906
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Would those of you who would like to see additional fields or categories added to the current list, please offer up a method of adding those using the current system?


This one isn't overly difficult to add...
Casting

but these, using the current system, are near impossible.
Costume Design
Makeup
Special Effects
Set Decoration
Theme credit - music
Created by (when the actual credit says created by. Mostly TV series)


I don't see the problem.
Costume Design goes under the category Art to people credited with Costumes or Costume Design
Makeup would also go under Art to those credited with "makeup"
Set decoration would also go under Art to those credited with "set decoration"
Created by goes in the category Writing to those that are credited with "Created by" (and only that)
Theme music goes in the category "Music" and people credited with theme

No idea about Special Effects though

As I said, I don't see the problem. Maybe I missed your point completely though.

The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting reybr:
Quote:
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Would those of you who would like to see additional fields or categories added to the current list, please offer up a method of adding those using the current system?


This one isn't overly difficult to add...
Casting

but these, using the current system, are near impossible.
Costume Design
Makeup
Special Effects
Set Decoration
Theme credit - music
Created by (when the actual credit says created by. Mostly TV series)


I don't see the problem.
Costume Design goes under the category Art to people credited with Costumes or Costume Design
Makeup would also go under Art to those credited with "makeup"
Set decoration would also go under Art to those credited with "set decoration"
Created by goes in the category Writing to those that are credited with "Created by" (and only that)
Theme music goes in the category "Music" and people credited with theme

No idea about Special Effects though

As I said, I don't see the problem. Maybe I missed your point completely though.

Where they go isn't the problem. Try implementing them.

Since you claim to see no problem, give workable examples for each.
Make sure your definition is clear for each one and each possibility that may arise. Feel free to use the current rules layout for your examples.
Dan
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorreybr
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Norway Posts: 906
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:

Supervising Producer is handled by the current list. It just isn't specifically listed. It goes under Executive Producer.


Why? I don't see it as the same job and since neither the rule nor the application itself mentions Supervising Producers I don't think that Supervising Producers should be credited as executive producers.

The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorreybr
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Norway Posts: 906
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:

Where they go isn't the problem. Try implementing them.

Since you claim to see no problem, give workable examples for each.
Make sure your definition is clear for each one and each possibility that may arise. Feel free to use the current rules layout for your examples.


I listed what they should be credited as. Those roles are all fairly common in the opening credits. If a person is credited with "created by" select that. If he isn't credited with "created by", don't select it

I might be very dense here, but I still don't see the problem.

The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorTracer
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 951
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting reybr:
Quote:
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:

Supervising Producer is handled by the current list. It just isn't specifically listed. It goes under Executive Producer.


Why? I don't see it as the same job and since neither the rule nor the application itself mentions Supervising Producers I don't think that Supervising Producers should be credited as executive producers.


Agreed I never have seen a forum consensus or rule change or program change that has stated Supervising Producer = Executive Producer.  I have nothing against it if it is in the rules or even a statement from Ken saying it's okay. 

Dan can you enlighten us where this change was allowed?
Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorpompel9
Registered: March 13, 2007
Norway Posts: 467
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting reybr:
Quote:
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:

Supervising Producer is handled by the current list. It just isn't specifically listed. It goes under Executive Producer.


Why? I don't see it as the same job and since neither the rule nor the application itself mentions Supervising Producers I don't think that Supervising Producers should be credited as executive producers.


That's what I thought too.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
Registered: May 9, 2002
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 980
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting reybr:
Quote:
Quoting Dan W:
Quote:
Would those of you who would like to see additional fields or categories added to the current list, please offer up a method of adding those using the current system?


This one isn't overly difficult to add...
Casting

but these, using the current system, are near impossible.
Costume Design
Makeup
Special Effects
Set Decoration
Theme credit - music
Created by (when the actual credit says created by. Mostly TV series)


I don't see the problem.
Costume Design goes under the category Art to people credited with Costumes or Costume Design
Makeup would also go under Art to those credited with "makeup"
Set decoration would also go under Art to those credited with "set decoration"
Created by goes in the category Writing to those that are credited with "Created by" (and only that)
Theme music goes in the category "Music" and people credited with theme

No idea about Special Effects though

As I said, I don't see the problem. Maybe I missed your point completely though.

So, everyone with a "Make-up" credit should go under make-up? That is what you said.

All "set decoration" credited people should go under "Set Decorator"?

Costume Design goes under .....


Would you offer your justification for your proposal using Pan's Labrynth? Specifically who goes and who stays please. I would also like to see your list for Planet of the Apes.
Dan
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorStaid S Barr
Registered: Oct 16, 2003
Registered: May 9, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 1,536
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
An interesting suggestion above, and not covered in the poll, is to include Open Credits, but not make them contributable (is that a word?). After all, this request can not be delegated to Tags (like Color vs. B/W).
Hans
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7  Previous   Next