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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantfalcon2099
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Quoting gardibolt:
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I just gave a positive rating to a No vote on a contribution I made.    He was quite right, and I withdrew the contribution.


Almost exactly the same thing happened to me on one of my contributions.  Although he presented his argument that I was incorrect nicely and without malice, we agreed to disagree and let the masses (voters & screener) decide who was actually right.

Because we actually discussed the issue and we both brought forth good reasons, it actually turned out that we both gave each other positive votes.  I guess it shows we can all get along. 
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I mentioned the name Skip the other day .., and got a Negative within minutes..   

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Thanks to who ever went back in  and removed that Neg..    after I posted here...
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I mentioned the name Skip the other day .., and got a Negative within minutes..   

I'm not sure how I would take such a neg vote.  Did someone think you were being unfair to Skip and deserved a neg?  Or did someone just see Skip's name mentioned and gave the neg just because his name was there?  I'm glad the neg was removed, since it clearly was unjustified. But it wouldn't surprise me if there are people out there who hold such an animosity toward Skip that they'll give anybody a negative vote merely for mentioning his name.

Next, I expect some of those people to give a negative vote if you use the word even if you're not referring to Skip by name:  e.g., "How can I skip contributions when I'm looking at new updates in the Database? 
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This has probably been asked, but why the negative reputation vote doesnt require an explanation? I think at least it would force the user to think why s/he is giving a negative vote.
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This has probably been asked, but why the negative reputation vote doesnt require an explanation? I think at least it would force the user to think why s/he is giving a negative vote.


Some users (including myself) already asked for this as well. One of the main arguments against it, is the possibility of identifying the voter due to his writing style. I personally wouldn't sign this.

IMHO, negative votes should require a reason (mandatory). Personalizing a vote should be optional (I would do that when I feel that voting negative is necessary! This would prevent speculations and wrong suspicions!)

A minimum timeframe of 24hrs between the referring posting and the ability of voting could  avoid many problems when voters have to think and sleep a night over this.

The general necessity of red arrows is another discussion...
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A minimum timeframe of 24hrs between the referring posting and the ability of voting could  avoid many problems when voters have to think and sleep a night over this.

The general necessity of red arrows is another discussion...


This wouldn't necessarily work as not all people read a post within 24 hours of it being posted.
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A minimum timeframe of 24hrs between the referring posting and the ability of voting could  avoid many problems when voters have to think and sleep a night over this.

The general necessity of red arrows is another discussion...


This wouldn't necessarily work as not all people read a post within 24 hours of it being posted.


Oh, sorry my explanation was a little bit unclear! What I meant was that voting should be possible earliest after 24hrs...time to cool down the heat of a battle.
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This has probably been asked, but why the negative reputation vote doesnt require an explanation? I think at least it would force the user to think why s/he is giving a negative vote.

I'd prefer the possibility to give feedback, why I feel a posting to be inappropriate or offensive...

... maybe it could be optional...

... I don't know if the wars will flame up with such a possibility...

... maybe with a time limit between two res arrows on voter can place on a single destination...

Regards, AA
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A minimum timeframe of 24hrs between the referring posting and the ability of voting could  avoid many problems when voters have to think and sleep a night over this.

... I don't agree with you that the problem of "not rereading a post" or "fast shooting" is located at the voters side...

Regards, AA
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... maybe with a time limit between two res arrows on voter can place on a single destination...

Regards, AA


This is not really necessary, because:
1. one person has only 3 red arrows a day
2. many negative votes from a single person to the same target have not the same impact as negative votes from many different persons.
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... maybe with a time limit between two res arrows on voter can place on a single destination...

Regards, AA


it is not possible to vote more than once on a post
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... maybe with a time limit between two res arrows on voter can place on a single destination...

Regards, AA


it is not possible to vote more than once on a post

I didn't mean one post, but one human being - to prevent wars...

... but after rethinking - and influenced by my personal experience - this could be really hard, because the voter would have to decide which is the most offending post of the target ;-)

Regards, AA
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A minimum timeframe of 24hrs between the referring posting and the ability of voting could  avoid many problems when voters have to think and sleep a night over this.

... I don't agree with you that the problem of "not rereading a post" or "fast shooting" is located at the voters side...

Exactly.
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But if you withdraw, does it stick?

I also wonder if it sticks if someone resubmits a profile without withdrawing.


The vote sticks at least if the profile is resubmitted without withdrawing. I know because I happened to get such a vote.
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But if you withdraw, does it stick?

I also wonder if it sticks if someone resubmits a profile without withdrawing.


The vote sticks at least if the profile is resubmitted without withdrawing. I know because I happened to get such a vote.

I can understand WHY this is happening, I'm just not sure that the way it SHOULD happen.  Though the Yes votes should stick, too.
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