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It may be more accurate... but it would be against the rules.

It would also be against the rules to provide a title for Tim Burton's Batman, as one does not appear on the front cover, but no-one seems to mind ignoring the rules in that case.

I ignore no rules in my contributions or with my voting. I am a very literal person... and a very rules oriented person. If I contribute to any field I do it per the rules.... if I vote on any contribution it is per the rules only. What others do is beyond my control... but I would never ignore a rule.

So is your title for 'Batman' blank (or would it be if you owned that DVD)?

How is that even a question that matters to this discussion? How I have it locally is of no matter... as I said... and you can see above where I put in bold.... "I ignore no rules in my contributions or with my voting".

I'm not talking about your local.  If you were contributing or voting on this, you cannot go strictly by the "Rules" unless you leave the title "blank".

It's great that you would contact Ken, but that doesn't help the whole community unless Ken changes the Rule.

The point is, that sometimes, there are things in the Rules that cannot be followed or make no sense in a particular case.

We have the power of reason.  We should all try to exercise it from time to time. 

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And this is nothing new at all for TV Series profiles... when it comes to the main cast... that is credited on every single episode... they have always been credited for every single episode... whether they actually appeared in the episode or not.... because they are credited for every episode. That is how it has always been.

Pete,

Remember, you should NEVER use generalizations.   As I pointed out (maybe not in this thread) in the early days of TV they OFTEN did not credit the main cast in every single episode.  I cited Gunsmoke where I believe only James Arness and maybe Dennis Weaver was credited in EVERY episode in the beginning.  Gunsmoke didn't name the cast in the opening credits  -- and the end credits only showed Milburn Stone and Amanda Blake for the episodes where Doc and Kitty actually appeared.

Ken... you read what I said wrong. read the part before your bold to see what I am saying... but here is a slight rephrase to make it even more clear....

And this is nothing new at all for TV Series profiles... when it comes to the main cast... that is credited on every single episode... they have always been credited for every single episode in DVD Profiler... whether they actually appeared in the episode or not.... because they are credited for every episode. That is how it has always been.

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when it comes to the main cast... that is credited on every single episode... they have always been credited for every single episode in DVD Profiler... whether they actually appeared in the episode or not.... because they are credited for every episode. That is how it has always been.

Out of curiosity....are these shows the same situation as Bewitched Season 3? Meaning are the principal cast listed in the opening credits and then some/or all of them repeated in the end credits to show their participation in any given episode?

If they were NOT in opening AND closing credits then it is an entirely different situation to Bewitched.

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I'm not talking about your local.  If you were contributing or voting on this, you cannot go strictly by the "Rules" unless you leave the title "blank".

It's great that you would contact Ken, but that doesn't help the whole community unless Ken changes the Rule.

The point is, that sometimes, there are things in the Rules that cannot be followed or make no sense in a particular case.

We have the power of reason.  We should all try to exercise it from time to time. 

I actually agree with you here.  The rules tell us to, "Use the title from the front cover."  In the case of Batman, that is not possible.  Since it isn't possible, we must use some common sense.

However, when the rules are clear...as I believe they are in this case...they must be followed.  It doesn't matter if I think it is stupid or illogical.  JMHO.

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I see nothing in the rules to say that the end credits for this, or any other, episode of Season 3 are NOT standard.

The fact that there are actors listed in the opening credits, which are not listed in the end credits, makes them non standard credits.

but someone then highlighted the word "involved" and said that Agnes Moorehead is not involved in the show because she doesn't appear in the episode. and then it was said, well I (not me) interpret involve differently so she is involved. So if she's involved its not standard credits, if she's not involved its standard credits.

I really don't think Ken meant to have the inclusion of cast from opening credits cause this much debate. My guess would be that he meant it that if there is an actor in  the show that gets credited in the opening credits but not in the end credits include them

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I honestly don't see why this is such a big deal.  If it were me, I would add her to the credits, upload the profile then remove her from my local db. 

I completely agree with this as well. Only reason I can see for it is that Pantheon contributed without her in the list because when he audited it thats how he did the credits, people voted no, and he doesn't want to have to rego through each profile to add this information back in to the ones that 'need' it (just so you know I don't 'blame' Pantheon for this and dont think he should have to go back through all the profiles to 'fix' this when it seems to be fairly split on the proper way). So now the community as a whole possibly suffers from other improvements because some people voted no to it and it was removed. I would have left it and seen what the screeners done. because as Addicted2DVD said, its Invelos' database, so if they accept it, it must be fine with them.

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The screeners declined 3 of the 4 disc the first time around (I have to think disc 4 just got by them)... and so he tried again with discs 1-3.

Exactly...

I find it amazing that of the 3 NO voters not a single one has re-redited Disc 4 to show Agnes Moorehead as being in every episode. I can only surmise that this isn't all that important to them after all.